My starting salary is around 85K, which is incredibly competitive for this area. Negotiation is not always necessary and reasonable depending on competing offers, job market, etc. The biggest employers of mechanical engineers are companies that provide architectural, engineering and related services, where the average pay was $95,270 in 2016. In fact, I was making $105k in the SF Bay Area before this job (30% paycut) and I'm much better off financially here. Started at $60k outside of DC 5 years ago. Reading through all these comments I get the sense that structures makes the least amount of money. If you are in the US, you were misinformed about engineering salaries being the same as you start. I'm going into power systems in California. Mechanical is a great discipline. I make enough money to pay the bills, fund retirement, support my family. I really wish Civil Engineers would get paid more. Edit: From my experience, high earning engineers have good social skills- probably the number one thing. Going to vary a lot depending on where you are, what type of civil engineering you get into, and who you are working for. they have to work, and look pretty on the outside. "Chief Civil Engineer" It is a title for civil engineers (duh) that have 5 years experience and a PE. You work in a comfortable office much of the day, though you may get to leave the office sometimes depending on your specific job. And my coworkers don't either. $88,430. I know I can pull off the same kind of money, eventually, when I go on my own way as a subject matter expert in consulting. Future Job Prospects: How much experience do you have to have in order to move into management? Bachelor's degree. Coming close to 6 years out of school. I started off as a tech where I made $40k, that was 12 years ago. but if you feel it is, ask for flexibility on one or two carefully chosen items (i.e. and is better served by chemical and mechanical engineers. Civil: Oversee construction of infrastructure and buildings that comprise our world: ... mechanical or another form of engineering in your major, you will experience great intellectual development. I love what I do and get a lot of satisfaction from my work. Started at around $46,000 in 2006. A PE is pretty much required in the power systems field right? I personally did chemical engineering, and that has correspondingly geographically limited me... it has worked out very well, but if I was doing it over, I would PERSONALLY do mechanical engineering. Doesn't sound like much, but I didn't pay for rent, utilities, health insurance, etc. The unemployment rate (3%) is close to the 2004 average (7%). The story is more complicated than that, overtime (rare but I get it at 1x rate) and bonuses will generally drive you higher than that and aren't included in my numbers. "Chief Civil Engineer" It is a title for civil engineers (duh) that have 5 years experience and a PE. Salaries range from 3,150 BWP (lowest average) to 21,000 BWP (highest average, actual maximum salary is higher).. I just graduated and am anticipating making that when I talk to my employer. All the money is in tech,finance, and medical field. It's usually a little lower because experienced workers skew the numbers a bit. And what did you do previously that helped get you in there? Civil Engineer. Work life balance is far more important. (an engine for example). Year after year, engineering jobs are paid the highest average starting salary.According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) engineers have a median annual wage of $91,010 and the engineering field projects to have employment growth of nearly 140,000 new jobs over the next decade. Your max will depend on your education probably. civil engineer Mechanical Engineering. Just graduated with an E.E- working in emergency power systems (transfer switching, genset paralleling, etc) in Atlanta. The very top person in our department gets around $850k, which I know because it is published in our public tax filings. Sure if you get a job at a big firm or work for yourself on contingency, you can make big money, but there is still a glut of lawyers and the bottom 70% of law jobs pay pretty poorly. Someone who wants to work in oil and gas upstream is often generally better served by mechanical engineering or chemical engineering vs. petroleum engineering (beware Pet E now... it was a fad degree of years passed, and now struggles; I'd muse the median petroleum engineering graduate this year is unemployed). https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/kernco/classspecs?keywords=engineer. Materials engineering may often be better served by chemical or mechanical engineering, Civil engineering is a low paying job... and people will often do an environmental engineering specialty. Navy vs. So while the jobs are different, the pay between civil engineers and construction management are fairly similar. 7 Colorado is also impressive. Salary, start date, moving expenses, time-off) A person working in Engineering in Botswana typically earns around 9,910 BWP per month. Hourly wages ($31.10) are above the average ($18.07), and the rate of wage growth is below average. Engineers Get Top Pay. Engineering is also not tech... things that happen in the tech industry that do not happen (or are exceedingly rare) in the engineering industry: Being considered "senior" by 3 years experience. Yes, you are right – a… Bachelor's degree. I know many lawyers in NYC almost 10 years out of law school who make around $100K. People after a certain amount of time are tracked onto management and thus are considered "managers" not engineers. What type of Engineering? If you continue to do the same job description you were hired to do exactly, then you won't see more money. Mechanical Engineer. But they are completely different careers. Cleveland, OH. What is an engineering degree worth? You can pull off a high paying salary once you gain several years of professional experience, established your name in the community, and an engineering license wouldn't hurt either. Employment grew at an average rate. Any insight from any field of engineering is appreciated, especially CS or mechanical. Bioengineering: The "biological part" of that whole process is pretty small, otherwise it is mostly pumps, reactors, pipe, etc. 5 years out. I am curious what you consider to be an engineering firm, because it changes the answer. Mechanical Engineering: Pros and Cons. Max out probably around 120-130k unless I start my own firm. There is also "Engineer" for non-PE engineers with 20 years experience (mainly used for mechanical and electrical disciplines, which we have few of). There is also "Engineer" for non-PE engineers with 20 years experience (mainly used for mechanical and electrical disciplines, which we have few of). I started out 5 yrs ago in a rural central Texas town doing land development making $48,500/yr. Assuming you: 1) take on more responsibility and 2) learn things, you will get paid more. Very few OTHER companies will hire an aero engineer to do mech work. If you want to earn over 200k, you'll probably have to go down that route. Engineers apply the knowledge of math & science to design and manufacture maintainable systems used to solve specific problems. We start out ops managers and engineering PMs out at around 70-85k and then it tops out around 165k for a top talent technical person, or senior PM or union shop manager. At some point it's not about salary but about keeping your sanity. I currently live in the Dallas,TX area and would like to stay in Texas upon graduating. Yeah but $200K living in San Francisco is like $100K in the south or mid-west. Right after the recession, some law firms were paying graduates $10-15/hour. My salary only went up $4000/year when I got my license do to the status of the company at the time. What kind of work are you doing for the National Park Service? Managers probably make around $130k, but I won't make that much. AskEngineers is a forum for questions about the technologies, standards, and processes used to design & build these systems, as well as for questions about the engineering profession and its many disciplines. I like what I do. The positions where you specifically work on the "flight" part of the plane vs. the components that make that flight are very rare. Starting salaries are usually decent, but there's tons of upside potential. Just beware... you generally "need" to get a graduate degree because there are so many engineers on the market they needed a way to differentiate, so they "prefer" masters degrees for BS reasons like "Well, we want smarter people..." or "I just like the skillset masters degree students have...". Wow, your titles are completely different than what is typical in my region. Any insight from any field of engineering is appreciated, especially CS or mechanical. I'm an engineer that made a hair over $400k last year without being a manager so I feel like I can help you with this. Lastly, there is "Consulting Engineer" for 10 years experience with a PE. I should warn you: gross income is an unreliable indicator of financial well-being. Someone who wants to do aeronautical engineering because they "like airplanes" will be better served by doing electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, or even materials science/chemical engineering. Some companies may not pay as much, but make up for it in benefits. They will get incremental promotions and then will eventually be given an engineering team at which point they do pretty much management and not engineering anymore. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the civilengineering community. This is out of my wheelhouse, but will help others answer your question. I don't really manage, but I am a project manager responsible for the financial success of my projects and I am sort of responsible for some level of business development and maintaining revenues in my local area. This is the average monthly salary including housing, transport, and other benefits. The job outlook for Civil, Mechanical, Electrical and Chemical Engineers is considered Above Average because: 1. The highest salary in our office as an engineer is about $98k. It is also one of the oldest forms of engineering but it is also the broadest. The Navy doesn't offer numerous career paths for engineers; while civilian engineers can … Would you happen to know how each specialization compares? Currently make $63,000/yr. Up to $300k if you go into management. Civil engineering: Building and maintaining infrastructure. I like who I work with. I’m in facilities/plant ops in NYC. Mechanical Engineering: Educational Requirements I have a friend who's a software engineer at Google. There are exceptions to this in my opinion and people will quickly point them out and "suggest" that the exceptions represent the bulk of developers when they do not. The median annual salary for all engineers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, is $79,100. The average salary … The national average salary for a Computer Engineer is £33,298 in United Kingdom. Engineering is weird because it's less stratified than other fields. This will help me better answer your question. I've been at three different firms since I started and they all pay pretty close. I got a 5% increase with the PE. Law is also a toss up. •How much did your pay increase when you obtained your PE license? Year after year, engineering jobs are paid the highest average starting salary.According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) engineers have a median annual wage of $91,010 and the engineering field projects to have employment growth of nearly 140,000 new jobs over the next decade. he definitely wasn't speaking in absolutes either. Mechanical Engineers tend to make more. The vast majority of JDs end up in shitty government jobs or small firms that pay like $75K out of law school. Is it easy to move into management? I'm 10.5 years into my current job (chemical process engineer), and equivalent yearly raise for my current salary vs. my starting salary is 7.3%. Nuclear plants: The "nuke side" is VERY small of nuke plants... the pressure vessel, pipe, pumps, condensers, cooling towers, switchgear equipment, power part, etc. As a civil engineer, you must choose a specialization: structures, transportation, geotechnical, water resources, environmental, or construction (there are even more sub-specializations within each of those specialties.) Civil Engineers build targets, mechanical engineers build weapons. So I've heard from a lot of different sources being both IRL people and online sources that engineers have great starting salaries, but they don't go up much from there. Top software engineers in Silicon Valley are doing $200K+ base and annual bonuses in cash and stock. Bonuses for partners can be 100% of salary or more in a good year. Finance jobs somewhere like Atlanta or Minneapolis aren't going to pay as much and are going to be mostly limited to commercial banking, financial planning, etc. •What is the potential salary that I can max out at? IMO the "computer chip" and "hardware design" component of these companies is very small compared to the "software side.". Finance and law both pay much much better. Also, our jobs come with a defined benefit pension plan that lets us retire as early as 55 with 32 years of service. Finance does if you are in a major financial hub, which are all absurdly expensive to live in with the exception of Frankfurt and Houston (if you do energy). Salaries vary drastically between different Engineering careers. To be able to good at accounting and engineering, you need to be a person who is detail-oriented, loves numbers and can be creative enough think beyond the general conception of theories. It is often considered "jack of all trades" but not because it limits deep understanding, but generally because the discipline teachs you to think and solve a general array of problems, and gets into enough technical items that you can deep dive into a lot of things in your career. For example a CSE at a big 4 type company in Silicon Valley/San Francisco starts at 110-120 base. I've been doing "individual contributor" roles that keep me on a technical track. Lastly, there is "Consulting Engineer" for 10 years experience with a PE. Entry level is in the low 50's and if youre an average engineer you make 80K after 10 years of experience (we do have a guy with six years of experience who makes 85K but he is a very good engineer). I was hoping for more at the time and expect to get a raise in the future to get to where I was hoping to be. Personally, unless you are hoping to make upper 6 figs, I think you have a much better chance of making it as a partner at a mid size firm than rising to the top of a huge corporation like Jacobs or Boeing. No idea what a potential max salary would be. So in engineering, there's a place where the management roles are going to pay more, but you're going to work for it. Civil engineering professionals are in robust demand, as well, in a new decade. Previously on this thread, another poster did the same math and I think they were at 7.6% yearly equivalent over their whole career. $87,060. I also had a question on how hard it is to get a career in a high paying engineering firm or computer engineering company like any of the big 4. Director of engineering probably makes around $190-225k and head of facilities ops probably $300-400k. Starting salary should be $45k-$80k depending on location, demand, your skills, etc. $36,420 as a brand new Army lieutenant stationed in New Mexico. Depends where you are. Overall the choice between the two should be based on interest. It didn't, but I do now qualify for better-paying jobs. It took a while, but I went from ~$48k to $66k when I went from Associate to Chief. Most of the places I've seen would start me at about $80k as an Engineer 1, and if I were to do nothing but stay an engineer, I would top out at about $140k at an Engineer 5. Some companies also have a higher end to the technical career path, often called "senior chief engineers" or "technical fellows" or something, and they'll make closer to engineering director pay. I'm likely to get a formal promotion this year, bump up to the next salary range. Previously on this thread, another poster did the same math and I think they were at 7.6% yearly equivalent over their whole career. I think it's even the exception in tech too. (assuming it's related to civil). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. yeah what he meant by creative is visual art. Could you expand on what you do for moonlighting? Job Title Educational Requirements Median Salary (2019)* Job Outlook (2018-2028)* Chemical Engineers : Bachelor's degree : $108,770 : 6%: Civil Engineers Few engineers ever get to that level. Press J to jump to the feed. Civil Engineering Vs Mechanical Engineering: Salary, Mga Trabaho sa Outlook, Mga Kinakailangan, Sertipiko Hulyo 16, 2020 By Bright Emeka Mag-iwan ng komento Ang mga tao nang madalas, pinag-uusapan ang iba't ibang mga sangay ng engineering, at kawili-wili, ang pinakapag-uusapan ay ang civil engineering vs mechanical engineering. One of the ME consulting firms we hire starts new grads at $65-70k. I know the old saying you should never ask people how much money they make ,but I would like to have a good idea of my financial status in the future. Since then I went back to university and got a degree, got my PEng (Canadian PE) and switched firms a couple times. Median Salary: $84,770. Which is better completely depends on your career goals. Management tends to be on a higher pay scale too. The vant majority of engineers in the nuclear plant will be mechanical, chemical, and electrical. Mechanical engineers do generally earn slightly higher than civils when it comes to consulting and design work. Managers spend a lot of time managing, most of which stuff looks really not my thing. You will probably max out $120k as a senior/principal engineer. Their senior engineers are like $120k and their partners at like $190k but they get significant bonuses at the partner level. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, BS - Mechanical, MS - Software Engineering. If I were to redo, I'd probably done CS. I work in civil engineering for a mid sized consulting firm in Canada. I can speak for the engineering side. He was looking for a roommate for a small two stories apartment, and the half rent was around $4,000. I should add that Cleveland is low cost of living. Mechanical engineering uses the principles of physics and materials science along with engineering to analyze, design, manufacture and maintain mechanical systems. 6%. I’m a Civil Engineer and I don’t make that much even for a Civil. And we get zero deductible health insurance, prescription coverage, dental, and vision, with the company picking up 90% of the cost (last year, my employer paid nearly $16k for health insurance for me). But that top salary is if I never make the move to management where you could potentially make quite a bit more, I don't know because the companies I worked for didn't have to publicly disclose manager salary. It's not true that engineers don't have a lot of salary growth potential, at least in software. I have negative interest in anything management related. A typical department lead (VP level) is around 200-220 base. Anyways, I'm hoping the buy in pays off, the other partners say the rate of returns are incredible, 50%, so I'm hoping it'll add $20k and eventually $40k to my income. whereas a lot of mechanical engineering doesn't have to necessarily looks pretty so much as work well. 10) Land Surveyor Average Salary: $28,885 – $80,295 Annual Provincial Median Salary (BC): $58,397 Education: A civil engineering diploma or degree is required. Accountants don't earn that much, unless they go into investment banking or FINTECH. However, some have gotten higher positions over the whole organization, topping out at $130k. Construction Management vs. Civil Engineering Surprising Similarities. I'm making about $140k after 20 years. I'll say it (gatekeeping controversy inc): I generally don't consider CS an engineering degree and the majority of software developers I do not consider engineers. Anecdotally, the junior level engineers at the companies I've worked at start around $65-70k fresh out with a BS and most of the experienced engineers (20+ years exp) are in the 120-150k base salary range with bonuses of varying size on top. Civil Engineer Pay Civil engineers plan and lead construction of public buildings, infrastructure, pipelines, roadways, airports and other city buildings and systems. All the way from the floor to the CEO. •How much did you start off at/what state are you located in? That said I wouldn’t change a thing about any of my choices. I just became a junior partner this year, so I had to buy into the firm which was $40k, I'm eligible for a second buy-in in two years. The job descriptions of mechanical engineers are INCREDIBLY diverse, and mech E's can be found at all levels many companies. You can apply many of the pros of being a software engineer to a mechanical engineering career. What kind of market/industry are you in? I would guess the 2 senior partners at that firm (~40 ppl) pull in $300-600k in a good year. Law is only worthwhile if you can get into a top school or have a connection that will guarantee you a good job. get a career in a high paying engineering firm or computer engineering company like any of the big 4. Job Description: A civil engineering technician assists in developing engineering drawings and specifications and performs other technical duties pertaining to civil engineering. Good raises don't come from staying at a company long term. Below I listed a few questions if you could answer I would really appreciate it ,but if they are too personal I understand. It's not like the job is easy. Working with a city water utility. ... Civil Engineering. Colorado experienced the biggest increase in average wages for mechanical engineers … Beware "combination" engineering degrees that are really deep dives into specific fields of more broad engineering disciplines. That’s especially the case with the nation’s infrastructure aging at best and crumbling at worst. My job title was "Associate Engineer," which is the entry level title. Learn about salaries, benefits, salary satisfaction and where you could earn the most. as you said, civil engineers generally make things that people use. Saw a $4/hr pay bump with my PE, now making close to $90k. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the AskEngineers community. 20% more money for walking across the street; 100% LATERAL (similar job, similar industry) job changes in traditional engineering (don't send me any "well you could go over there and be a supervisor..." or "no way, my buddy used to do wind energy but then got a job as a process engineer in a refinery" statements) are generally going to be sub 5%... if that. Like... one example. You may need to lay people off, fire people, you are on the hook for a lot of organizational goals, financial stuff, etc. Transportation / construction engineer started in Chicago at 60k have been getting 6-8% raises every year. I don't. In this section, we will discuss the perspective of these two careers so that you can get a glimpse of what to expect from each of them.Ask any businessman, who they depend upon most? The jobs requiring this skill have decrease by 1.77% since 2018. It's really not that much. High level mangers get paid well, but they are on the hook for a lot of stuff. Press J to jump to the feed. Unless you make millions it probably still won't be enough. Step 3: Negotiate? I just need to know that I will be able to take care of my family financially ,and live in a nice neighborhood...etc. I like the company I work at. Lots of people have posted that managers work for their salaries,I couldn't agree more. 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